McCain Favors Embryonic Stem Cell Research
McCain Favors Embryonic Stem Cell Research
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McCain Favors Embryonic Stem Cell Research
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December 18th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Stem cell research using embryos is the most promising area of medical research since we decoded DNA in 1952. It could lead to so many treatments for so many debilitating and chronic illnesses.
December 18th, 2009 at 1:14 am
funklab, I will try to improve my outlook.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:04 am
wow philippe, you need some kind of fun in your life. dont be so depressed.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:58 am
funklab, I am sorry. If you hang around me too long you will probably commit suicide. I would have committed suicide a long time ago but I fear the wrath of God. So you might say that God is literally the only thing keeping me alive today. I hate people. Trust me, for your own mental health and general well being, stay as far away from me as possible. I will ruin your perception of reality, if given enough time. Every sky will look gray to you, and everyone will be your foe.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:31 am
I would just like to point out that this discussion was about stem cell research, and as a result invitrofertilization, no where did anyone mention anything about mutants. The future is rather bleak, but I believe that there is much good that can be done, and I believe that stem cell research can do some of that good. But we’ve all got to do what we can.
As Braintax said “I come in peace from a small piece of dark and I’m going back soon, but for now I’ll make marks”
December 18th, 2009 at 3:54 am
Funklab, now that you compel me to analyze it, I feel that everything is pointless. I honestly think that we will blow ourselves up very soon. And if we don’t blow ourselves up, it would only be fitting that the mutants inherit the toxic wasteland. It’s perfect, just like out of a science fiction novel. If the shoe fits, wear it? Ok.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:12 am
So in your opinion naturally conceived babies are better than those who were conceived in other ways? I think most people would beg to differ. You should feel free to not procreate and save the planet from overpopulation, but I don’t think anyone has the right to tell other people who can and who cannot have babies. I’d rather be a “artificial” person inheriting a polluted wasteland, than a “real” person inheriting an authoritarian polluted wasteland.
December 18th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Funklab, all I know is, watching the world fall apart for the last 34 years, it’s one step forward and two steps back, a steady downward spiral, ever waiting for the inevitable day when the monkey with the nuclear weapon pushes the fuckin button. All the while, naturally conceived babies being murdered as we create artificial mutant people to inherit a polluted wasteland formerly known as Earth.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:07 am
First of all, you are the first person I have met who is willing to stand up against invitrofertilization, and I have a lot of respect for you because of that (most people would not admit it). But it seems rather arbitrary to tell people who cannot reproduce naturally that they cannot have children. Perhaps we should just pick half of all male children and have them castrated at birth, that would help the overpopulation problem. I dont think overpopulation is due to invirto, its too expensive
December 18th, 2009 at 5:33 am
McCain flipped… AGAIN. See my video response.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:35 am
We got abortion clinics, and we got fertility clinics…..MAKE UP YOUR FUCKIN MINDS PEOPLE!!! I’m starting to think that we do indeed need a NEW WORLD ORDER to control stupid people. We need a BIG BROTHER to slap people around because people are so fuckin stupid it makes me sick.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:43 am
I think it’s ridiculous that there is artificial reproduction. It seems that mankind cannot decide whether the planet is overpopulated or underpopulated. You know, there are people (Dr. Pianka for example) that want to cull the masses with aerosolized ebola virus, and then there’s people like you who think we need to make extra, artificial people. LOL! Me, I strike a happy medium. No aerosolized ebola, and no artificial people. COMMON SENSE.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:14 am
crap, you’re right about the iui. i has bean edumacated.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:21 am
In very rare cases after the embryos have been transferred back to the uterus, too many for a woman to carry implant and one chooses selective reduction for the safety of the mother. This is rare because usually clinics do not transfer more than the women can safely carry and it is rare for all transferred to implant. The septuplet phenomena does not happen with IVF. That is another assisted reproductive procedure called IUI.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Embrionic Stem Cells DO NOT result in the “death” of anyone. Like the man said, stem cells are going to be THROWN AWAY from the invitrofertilization process. So if you are against embrionic stem cell research, you should not fight that battle, you should fight to make invitrofertilization illegal… and in that case you are the one destroying human life (or at least preventing someone from concieving a child).
December 18th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Yeah, I understand that the brain has to be active for the heart to work, but when I say thinking, I mean thinking. Conscious. Not just an active brain. Brain waves were the wrong term for me to use.
And I am opposed to any abortion that late.
Yeah, playing devil’s advocate is fun. I just like to argue. It’s why I replied to your post in the first place.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am
You can argue all you want,,,The bottom line is, in America – at least, we have to contend with the Dickey Amendment.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:51 am
relaly, i jus tlike playing devil’s advocate. no matter what your position, i’ll poke holes into it. so i’ll stop
December 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
some can argue that nervous tissue has to think for you to make your heart beat, breathe, twitch. the autonomics can give “brain waves” or measurable electric activity
as for sentience, one can argue that post 28 weeks the fetus is unaware of anything, thus still having no rights.
if you mean as in react to external stimuli, you can damage a 1 hour old embryo and watch it correct itself.
on my post on conception, it was more to play devil’s advocate of mccain’s altering stances.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:34 am
When did I mention a heartbeat? I didn’t. When I say “functional,” I mean thinking. Conscious. Sentient. Does that happen in 3-4 weeks?
Also, since when does 3-4 weeks = conception? Conception seemed to be your position in your first post. Is every sperm sacred?
I don’t argue all that strongly for abortion, and I am against late term abortion, so don’t bother debating that with me. But by pulling this conception BS, you seem to be saying that the unborn are more important than the living.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
actually “implanted” isn’t incorrect. yes, you transfer the embryo to the mother-to-be’s womb where it then becomes implanted against the uterine wall. if there’s no implantation, then as you stated there’s no further development. so they transfer multiple embryos and hope at least one implants, but then sometimes you get those septuplet phenomena
December 18th, 2009 at 10:32 am
according to your comment then they have rights as early as 3 or 4 weeks when functional nervous tissue forms to make a baby’s heart beat.
go get an education
December 18th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Conception is NOT when humans have rights. They have rights when their brain becomes functional. Who the hell came up with this conception BS?
December 18th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Right. Because of course, the answers will fall into their laps immediately.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:53 am
The fact is, it IS fine. Do those embryos have measurable brainwaves? No? Then they’re not alive. They’re a clump of cells, nothing more. Definitely not human.
And don’t give me that crap about potential life, either. If you’re not having unprotected sex 24/7, you’re wasting potential life.
Also, how the FUCK are these embryos more important than people alive? How are they more important than all the people in the future who might contract a disease that could be cured with stem cell research?